From the blog of Nyxmyst http://nyxmyst.blogspot.com/
Maa: You know, he's not interested in you.
Nyx: Really?
Maa: Yep. He'd lie about that.
Nyx: You begged his collar?
Maa: Yes.
Nyx: He told you point blank he wasn't interested?
Maa: Yes.
Nyx: But what.. he'd be afraid to tell me that? I'm too scary?
Maa: He wants information from you?
Nyx: Because I don't put EVERYTHING on my blog already?
Maa: ...
She likes to cut and paste pieces or make things up entirely and well understood that this conversation never happened and that it is a complete fabrication and out right lie.
Here's the actual log
maahsatti: To:
Nyxmyst
Dated:
1/4/09 4:06 AM
maahsatti: quote]
I'm enjoying myself with him. He's fun.. and interesting.. and our political and economic debates are pretty
fascinating.[/quote]
maahsatti: Greetings,
Yes, I agree, he was fun and he was interesting and He and I also had many a fascinating debate. BUT he sabotages himself, when he feels he is letting his gaurd down, so to speak. At least thats what it seems like to me.
He was very hurt by a slave of his, yrs ago and I felt very bad for him over that. He down played his hurt of course, but it still came thru loud and clear.
The fact is really, John is a very lonely and a very bitter man, something he will never admit...so be it.But when that bitterness came to bite me in the ass for no reason at all except to just lash out at someone, I had,
Had enough. I agree Rapture has not changed and there in lies the real problem. as I said, he feels himself above change and growth and fancies himself a big know it all, thats just th
maahsatti: fancies himself a big know it all, thats just the plain fact of it.
I am in no way angry or upset he told me no..lmao...far from it..and infact, we kept on talking and debating etc etc well after that event. I even was the one who told him about CM and talked him into checking it out and participating on CM. Thats where he and I had our falling out....*shrugs*
Maahsatti
PS. My keyboard is having a brainfart and why the sentances are messed up
maahsatti: maahsatti: I did not *beg* your collar John...I said what I stated on the message board...so DO show me the proof of my begging....and IF you showa transcript of me begging, it is or has been doctored by you...because I infact did NOT beg a collar from you
maahsatti: as far as being fat...ahh well...guess you cant use that any more either..as I am no longer...and btw...I may have been fat, but you are not the most attractive man...inside or out...I asked to be with you ONLY because of therespect I *had* for you...certainly notbecause of your looks...see the diff is, I can and did lose weight...you cant change your face...lol...andz apparently you can not change your bitter ugliness inside either, which iswhat*truly* makes you ugly
maahsatti: BTW, Tom/Orion knows me, and I know he certai
maahsatti: maahsatti: BTW, Tom/Orion knows me, and I know he certainly would not take anything youhaveto say with any grain of salt
rapture203: lol. oddly enough the log is on a dvd. so no doctoring and of course you would lie
rapture203: So you roll the dice
maahsatti: it can still be doctored and you know it..I did not beg your collar, I asked in theway I explained it on the boards..so post away
maahsatti: maahsatti: you have never intimidated me John and you never will
rapture203: not when file information is preserved
rapture203: i like computer forensics
maahsatti: People all have your number.at least the ones with a brain
maahsatti: how many times do youhave to be banned to get that?
rapture203: you mean people like marcus who contradict themsleves. like orion who cant make an agrument to save is life. you mean deceiftful people like silks and steel and bull..and now you?
rapture203: You mean because i contradict people... i prove them wrong. and those people who bann me are the very people who get contradicted
maahsatti: and like I said to you...if thisis gonna be an insult party...save it..Im notplayin g and will just put you right back onignore
maahsatti: rapture203: actually i wasnever on iggy because you got my message
maahsatti: I got your invite
rapture203: iggy prevents that
maahsatti: then removed youfrom iggy...Mr know it all
maahsatti: no, it does not
rapture203: lol you may want to talk to yahoo tech support
maahsatti: Thats an issue with you...you have this God complex and think you know it all
rapture203: what research do you speak of by the way?
maahsatti: I think you should
maahsatti: cuz you were def on ignore and Istill got yourinvite request
maahsatti: at first I could send, but could not see replies, till I removed you
maahsatti: rapture203: so you say. not bad from coming from you who has said many things thus far and cant prove one of them
maahsatti: so..figure it out for yourself
maahsatti: whatever John...go play your games with thelittle girlies who
maahsatti: dont know any better
rapture203: more baseless conclusion... excellent.
rapture203: then you post your "research"
maahsatti: bye now John, back onignore you go
rapture203: yada yada
maahsatti: my research fool...meant...you had provoked me to research some of the topics we used to debate...NOT
research on you
maahsatti: you both are dumb
maahsatti: laughs
maahsatti: try correctly reading
rapture203: still .. what is your research? just blind, vague, and overly broad comments that have no support
maahsatti: maahsatti: You have no basis to judge that in such a way...yet you will and do, cuz likeI said...you think you know it all
rapture203: I ask for your proof and you provide bullshit
maahsatti: what proof
rapture203: yes i do have the right. you made the allegation
maahsatti: proof of what?
rapture203: all that research of yours
maahsatti: I do not recal everything from all those yrs ago....what I was saying was...when we had a debate about any given subject, you prompted me to look into it , within the books, etcetc...it was over various topics over time
maahsatti: rapture203: i'm sure you could retort.. heck i can. any specifics?
maahsatti: yet you get your panties in a twist, cuz you thought I meant I researched you and thought I was trying to insult you,whenIwas not
rapture203: just emailed that conversation to you.
maahsatti: so, dig those panties out of your ass John, you made an error on my intent and now can not even be man enough to admit thatmuch
rapture203: why dont you say this shit in front of me.
maahsatti: come on out hereand I will
maahsatti: I have said this shit to you onthe phone too
maahsatti: rapture203: send your info... rapture203@yahoo.com
maahsatti: so, dont play thatcard with me
rapture203: actually our phone conversation was quite pleasant
maahsatti: yes, they were BUT I never sugar coated things with you
maahsatti: not online oron the phone
maahsatti: why I can give you my info right here
rapture203: cant wait till you are bitch and make your claims as you did online.
rapture203: do so then.
rapture203: get my email yet?
maahsatti: 4 FoxRun Apt 8 Marshfield Ma, 02050....1-781-837-2473...did I miss anything?
maahsatti: laughs
maahsatti: my claims?
maahsatti: what claims
rapture203: actually a airport would be nice.
maahsatti: Logan Airport...Boston Ma
maahsatti: rapture203: oh boston.. i feel a holiday coming
rapture203: Get my email?
maahsatti: and No, I will not meet you and pick you up...you can rent a car and come here....lol
rapture203: so many people to visit..
maahsatti: I did and will read itsoon
rapture203: you assumed facts
maahsatti: facts about what?
rapture203: dont you love it when the mighty silk and steel peoples are usruped by a mere female.. i find it quit enjoyable.
maahsatti: that you would not collarthe little girly and that you onlyuse her?
rapture203: that i wanted you to pick me up
maahsatti: oh
maahsatti: I could care less about S&S
maahsatti: never did care about them
maahsatti: I prefered JD
maahsatti: rapture203: i find it amusing. and how the typical clusterfucked morons think they are know something when they didnt even bother to actually readon the books.
rapture203: JD?
rapture203: and the reason i got booted from jd was that I wouldnt tolerate their censorship and it was more than just idle internet bot stuff
maahsatti: if she did, I never recieved it
rapture203: you defended him
rapture203: you opened the door
rapture203: deal with it
maahsatti: damn right I did...and still do
maahsatti: maahsatti: so, whats to dealwith
rapture203: defend a liar and a felon then.
maahsatti: felon?...lol...as far as a liar, that remains to be seen by me
rapture203: but then again... that is par for the course on cm, with you, raven, and members of silk and steel
rapture203: as for nyx's email you may want to check your spam folder
maahsatti: I have never been a member of S&S and I do not lie..infact I am brutally honest...why?...I haveno need to lie
rapture203: you have lied about me. and I will prove so within 24 hours if you do not publically applogize for your false comments or be prepared to defend them with Proof.
maahsatti: my days of lieing and gaming ended many yrs ago whenI admitted to duelling
maahsatti: rapture203: yes i know about your past.. "jala"
rapture203: I suggest you prepare your proof as to your statements then.
maahsatti: like I said...I did NOT *beg* your collar...so ost what you want...I will defend and stand by my words...if in fact they are my words and not doctored
maahsatti: umm...everyone knows about Jala...even when I was using Jala, I told people relevent to me
rapture203: i dont doubt that.
maahsatti: so, try again sweet heart
rapture203: I made a statement not an allegation.
rapture203: i know you publically admitted to the dealings of jala
rapture203: lol
maahsatti: so, whats your point
maahsatti: rapture203: Like i said I will just post the verbatim log of the entire conversation which will disprove your statements.
rapture203: regarding your posts on cm
maahsatti: go for it
rapture203: you have the conversation in your email...
rapture203: ya and you remember your place female. "[13:14] Nyxmyst1: Mistress Maa: I will be up front from the start...I approved this request, under the condition you show proper respect, if not...it will be terminated
nyxmyst1: Polite I'm willing to be. Define "proper respect"."
rapture203: obvisously you need to be shown that again
maahsatti: if you think I do not know already she isnt showing you...think again
maahsatti: rapture203: lol. dont give yourself credit..
maahsatti: credit for what...having a brain?
rapture203: remember you have been up and down so many times it isnt funny
maahsatti: up and down?
rapture203: yup.. you know slave fw slave fw slave fw
maahsatti: lol...2 times fool
rapture203: thanks for the admission. want a quote as to that?
maahsatti: you love to make things out to be more then they are
maahsatti: a form of lieing
rapture203: more than once is good enough
maahsatti: admission?...I already admiited it yearsand yearsago
maahsatti: so, again...try again
maahsatti: rapture203: Yes you have.
rapture203: so you are just a female.. and lower than a slave: “If a girl of caste is enslaved, and then disowned, she, while slave cannot stand in companionship. Even if freed, without family, and by the same act, without caste,
would have a status beneath the dignity of the meanest peasant wench, secure in the rights of her caste. She would be among the lowest women on Gor. Even a slave girl has at least a collar” .(Hunters, pg. 135)
rapture203: One of my favs: "Make my maidens slaves," she said, "they are good for little else. But I am a free woman!" "Do you think you are better than they?" asked Samos. "Yes," she said. "You are no different from them," he said. "You, too are only a female." Players of Gor pg. 13
maahsatti: maahsatti: whatever...Im trying to read...
rapture203: yada yada yada
rapture203: uh huh.
rapture203: I like this one to re our conversation and your admissions in your post on cm: Any free woman who couches with another's slave or readies for such, becomes , by law, herself a slave and the property of said slaves owner.
pg. 7 Magicians of GOR
maahsatti: rapture203: or readies for such...
rapture203: there are of course other favs i have
rapture203: running your mouth again?
maahsatti: number 1..I still did not beg your collar...it was put forth asz hypotheticals mixed with my feelings for youat the time...I stated I would *if you required it*...number 2...the slave I had was platonic..and I never saidz anything tothe contrary...I can not sleep with someone I do not respect and he was useless and worthless to me
maahsatti: so...post itJohn
rapture203: i will.
maahsatti: and I will point out all myclaims
rapture203: glad you have confirmed the authenticity
maahsatti: and people..azs usual will see you for the decietful liar you are that holds no honor or promise he makes
rapture203: which promises were those?
maahsatti: maahsatti: yep...and I still maintain the fact, I did not beg you
rapture203: still empty allegations where those.
maahsatti: to not show the transcript...not because what I was doing was wrong, but because they were my personal feelings and were only meant to be szhared with you
maahsatti: what allegations?
rapture203: [13:28] maahsatti: and people..azs usual will see you for the decietful liar you are that holds no honor or promise he makes
maahsatti: well...it is true, if you post it
maahsatti: but go ahead and post it
rapture203: I will.
maahsatti: I do not hold those feelings anymore
rapture203: ok. so what.
maahsatti: so...no big deal...but it shouldz be to you...you will only prove my point
maahsatti: rapture203: as i said ... annotated.
rapture203: and just like marcus here .. just blow smoke to prove a point verse references
maahsatti: I do not know what annotated means
rapture203: www.w-m.com
maahsatti: dont care that much to look either
rapture203: oops www.m-w.com
maahsatti: as I said...I did not beg your collar..I expressed my feelings towards you
rapture203: suit your self
maahsatti: so, make an ass of yourself..Im sure you are used to it by now....lol
maahsatti: and I need to go
rapture203: havent you noticed anything... esepcailly about cm.. that there is this silent majority and a vocal minority that just gets shit wrong
maahsatti: rapture203: and people are run off when they dare to disagree with the "in crowd".. i could name them but you already know
maahsatti: I could care less about CM...I do not like the censorship either or the BDSM crap...BUT I do respond to topics in the Gorean section, that intrest me to do so and to better communicate with those I respect and admire
maahsatti: thats something I do notdo...is run off when faced with adversity
maahsatti: I charge at it
rapture203: didnt you need to go? then i suggest you charge at it when i post. with your evidence
maahsatti: I damn well intend to
rapture203: Good.
maahsatti: then, you will be placed, right back on ignore after I point out how petty and dishonest you are
maahsatti: and I will enjoy it
maahsatti: rapture203: you still havent learned .. because each time you tried you have failed.
rapture203: kewl.
rapture203: :)
maahsatti: have I really?...lol...I guess thats why people do not take youseriously and they do me
maahsatti: lol
maahsatti: cuz I do not lie
maahsatti: I do not sugar coat
maahsatti: and I do not play games in order to always be right
rapture203: you still bathering? I'll post. You respond. and as I said you best have more than just your word to back you up.
maahsatti: I do, I have the transcript...then I will have my explained intent as shown on the tran
maahsatti: lol
maahsatti: Jesus, grow up
maahsatti: now, truly. I gotta go
maahsatti: byeeee
rapture203: ....
"You know everyone out here is not going to like each other that is natural and I personally do not have a problem with conflict and arugement with others, but I refuse and draw the line and will not abide an out and out ruthless liar. There is no honor in lying."
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you forgot the ENTIRE STORY..........
ReplyDelete(gotta love how “men” protect the insolence of females…. Yes it is the new gorean way….)
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Orion Said, “Not to mention if you are going to call Maah out on it, you may want to call every other female out on it as well. Maybe the best thing here is to let this topic die?”
Orion you are being a hypocrite (again). You called out nyx for posting but have not called out maahsatti, ygraine, and elizabethanne.
Orion Said, “I believe this is probably the most minor of perplexing things that have occurred in this topic.”
Why? Because you call out one person while not calling other females who have posted and done the same thing? Because of your own bias against a third person who never posted in this thread until now ( I do love when I get so much attention. More so attacks than any attempt whatsoever to answer to the actual content of the posting (which you did along with many). Then again how many times have you called me out when I in fact never posted? (quite a few actually). !! How dare anyone agree with me and publically so !!
The thing is that most of you are lay people who really can’t make an apples to apples comparison yet want to be the authority and pound your chest like you really know something…. Your arguments lack any type of research, support and actual application. This is not to mention your own hypocrisy.
….and by the way it is a logical fallacy for a group of people to agree on “X’ against a “single” person and therefore something is a fact.
- Appeal to Belief
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-belief.html
Orion Said another forum (Post subject: Gorean Philosophy and Social ContractPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:11 am), “posted this on another forum and believe I would get better discussion and ideas here.)
I wonder why…….DUH.
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maahsatti, said, “….I did not *beg* his collar and told him I would not make a good slave, but that IF thats what it would take or require to be with him, I would....lol ….”
“No free woman, for example, would dare to place herself in such a position before Gorean free men, unless perhaps, weary of her misery and frustration, she was begging them, almost explicitly, to put her in a collar. There are many stories of Gorean free women, sometimes of high caste, who, as a lark or in a spirit of bold play, dared to dance in a paga tavern. Often, perhaps to their horror, they found themselves that very night hooded and gagged, locked in close chains, lying on their back, their legs drawn up, fastened in a wagon, chained by the neck and ankles, their small bodies bruised on its rough boards as they, helpless beneath a rough tarn blanket, are carried through the gates of their city.”
Explorers of Gor Book 13 Page 342
If you examine this quotation the “Freewoman” is expressing herself in a manner to garner the attention of Men to get their collar. If it is hypothetical or not no _actual freewomen_ would even dream of such a thing. It is the expression to which is the beg for the collar that is paramount.
You maahsatti, have done this…. Did you say, “I beg”…. No, did you express yourself as above for a collar? Yes. Hence you begged the collar, My Collar.
You admit to doing this (wanting my collar) in your posts in this thread.
You did so in our 2005 conversation (also look for bad slave thing) the log is at the end.
“Few free women, I suspect, would dare to dance the dances of Gor before strong men. If they did so, how long could they expect to remain free? Any woman who dares to appear so before men, and dance, it is said, is in her heart a slave.”
Kajira of Gor Book 19 Page 298
Again, and expression of want……..the want for the collar. This takes many forms as did yours.
“The principle he had alluded to pertains to conduct in a free woman which is taken as sufficient to warrant her reduction to slavery. The most common application of this principle occurs in areas such as fraud and theft. Other applications may occur, for example, in cases of indigency and vagrancy. Prostitution, rare on Gor because of female slaves, is another case. The women are taken, enslaved, cleaned up and controlled. Indulgence in sensuous dance is another case. Sensuous dance is almost always performed by slaves on Gor. A free woman who performs such dancing publicly is almost begging for the collar. In some cities the sentence of bondage is mandatory for such a woman.”
Renegades of Gor Book 23 Page 372
Again, it is the CONDUCT of the Free Woman that is substantially relevant and material and if such conduct is in relation to a collar (the expression even in the hypothetical sense to test the waters..) then you beg the collar. You need not say, “I beg your collar” or in the like kind. You expressed it through your conduct.
In conclusion as to your words, that you did not beg my collar; you did and your statement because of your experience and knowledge of Gor is a lie.
maahsatti, said, “Let me clue you in on a sad but all too true fact. Rapture will never collar you, not rl anyways. When he feels he has used up your usefulness (any info you can provide him) He will undoubtedly leave you to the way side.”
You forget I have been around longer than most people. I already know their story (that’s what people really don’t like the facts I know). Besides, if I want to ask someone, including but not limited to nyx, something I do or I get it out of them. To the most part I get what I want…….I don’t need to fuck anyone for it
Besides, slaves are to be used……are they not?
maahsatti, said, “As for Rapture never posting here?...lol..That was not his choice, he was lets say...excommunicated....lmao..BUT he does now and again pop into a chat room in CM till ...(big surprise) He gets kicked and ban. “
I get banned because people can’t handle being wrong when I quote third party sources that contradict them. Then these people get all pissy because they have at least been perceived as the “victim” of Rapture and of course their dismissal without any basis whatsoever to really support what they are saying (and being called on it or even on the ban no less). They must maintain their perception that they are someone special despite their respective reality which contradicts what comes out of their “mouth”. Am I the only one this has occurred to? No. This occurs to many not just me (probably why hardly anyone really posts here).
They attack people (like you have, like Orion and many others have instead of responding to the content of the post or posts in hopes they will turn and run.)
- Ad Hominem
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ad-hominem.html
They think because a group of people agree then all is settled…?
- Appeal to Belief
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-belief.html
Oddly enough it is in the interest of the host company of collarme.com (want their company information I have it) not to have people banned like they are here since such conversations cycle the thread or threads more to display their advertising.
The vast community is really a MINORITY……..
maahsatti, said, “ Like you,there was a time I agreed with a lot of what Rapture believed, not all, thats for sure, He and I bucked heads quite often, but that did not bother me, honestly it inspired me to learn more and research more. However, when I learned that he felt himself above and beyond the state of needing to learn, I realized our interactions online, as far as debating and such just would no longer be productive. “
I’m waiting for contrary evidential proof of your disagreements just not an unsubstantiated opinion that lacks a basis or relevant and substantial/material facts that proves me incorrect. You take the discussion between nyx and Marcus, semantically Marcus quoting symantics and nyx quoting rights. What is a substantial and material is the _rights_ within Gorean Free Companionship and the converse rights that are conveyed in Family Law ((Marriage) (Then again having a practice guide on family law does help me a tad and others who would otherwise inquire)). You lack the knowledge and skill to even come close to even start a debate with me.
You can or anyone else can disagree but stomping one’s foot or banning people does not prove anyone wrong. It does prove how weak people really are though along with their little online chest thumping.
“All I can suggest or say to you is, never let your gaurd down and never for a moment think he has any interest in you, other then seeing what kind of dirt he can aquire on any given person he chooses to get bent over. “
- Appeal to Consequences
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-consequences.html
“But you are right and was right to call me on it.”
““I never have nor ever will deny that he is a Gorean man, but that is not the end all and be all in order to inspire respect and admiration.”
Yep. And my right to do are what? At least I’m not a hypocrite (like being married and claiming Gor, living Gor or being Gor and/or being married to a non-gorean in which you couldn’t merely divorce immediately (which wouldn’t work in any respect)).
I believe if your motivations were as benevolent as you imply you would of emailed nyx and not posted it (as you did grace). Email nyx your grave concerns? Or was your post a public service?
Session Start (Rapture203:maahsatti): Sun Jan 04 12:47:37 2009
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[13:17] Rapture203: remember you have been up and down so many times it isnt funny
[13:17] maahsatti: up and down?
[13:17] Rapture203: yup.. you know slave fw slave fw slave fw
[13:17] maahsatti: lol...2 times fool
[13:18] Rapture203: thanks for the admission. want a quote as to that?
[13:18] maahsatti: you love to make things out to be more then they are
[13:18] maahsatti: a form of lieing
[13:18] Rapture203: more than once is good enough
[13:18] maahsatti: admission?...I already admiited it yearsand yearsago
[13:18] maahsatti: so, again...try again
[13:18] Rapture203: Yes you have.
[13:19] Rapture203: so you are just a female.. and lower than a slave: “If a girl of caste is enslaved, and then disowned, she, while slave cannot stand in companionship. Even if freed, without family, and by the same act, without caste, would have a status beneath the dignity of the meanest peasant wench, secure in the rights of her caste. She would be among the lowest women on Gor. Even a slave girl has at least a collar” .(Hunters, pg. 135)
[13:19] Rapture203: One of my favs: "Make my maidens slaves," she said, "they are good for little else. But I am a free woman!" "Do you think you are better than they?" asked Samos. "Yes," she said. "You are no different from them," he said. "You, too are only a female." Players of Gor pg. 13
[13:21] maahsatti: whatever...Im trying to read...
[13:21] Rapture203: yada yada yada
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Session Close (maahsatti): Sun Jan 04 13:44:17 2009
First, “If a girl of caste is enslaved, and then disowned, she, while slave cannot stand in companionship. Even if freed, without family, and by the same act, without caste, would have a status beneath the dignity of the meanest peasant wench, secure in the rights of her caste. She would be among the lowest women on Gor. Even a slave girl has at least a collar” .(Hunters, pg. 135)”….
You speak of lies? I sought information. You gave me that information in your own words and then dismiss Gor because it applies to you-a lie unto itself by you. IF YOU WILL NOTE: I never said how many times you had ups and downs just that you did have ups and downs-YOU GAVE ME THE NUMBER OF TIMES.
Secondly, if you consider my trial technique(s) to garner information as a lie then what about all of the intentional misquotes from Marcus that actually disproved his theory (not giving the entire quote or even knowing family law then turning around and pontificating on a subject he knows little about?) You ignore these. Again, I never said how many times you been up and down just that you have…
Do I expect anyone to agree? No. However, I am quite amused how people from day one fear what I have to say. I am amused I get so much attention just on the mere mention of my name. I am just a wealth of information which sometimes I provide to third persons if I see fit to do so.
Rapture
P.S.
As to the “external” comment.
“Slavery”, I told her, “true slavery, comes from within, and you, I assure you, are a true slave. Do not fight your slavery. Allow it freely and spontaneously, candidly, sweetly and untrammeled, to manifest itself. It is what you are.” Savages of Gor - Pg. 210
THE 2005 CONVERSATION:
Session Start (Rapture203:maahsatti): Fri Nov 11 19:12:50 2005
[19:12] maahsatti: so, how come so quiet these days?
[19:13] maahsatti: I DO hope your not chat shy cuz of the GCN occurance
[19:13] maahsatti: smirks
[19:13] Rapture203: nop
[19:13] Rapture203: e
[19:13] maahsatti: good
[19:14] maahsatti: I dont agree with a lot of how you deal with people, including myself, but I do respect you and your points, despite your methods....and if you post this I will deny and say you made it up, and made up the scroll....LOL
[19:15] Rapture203: LOL
[19:21] maahsatti: btw...oh smart one...how old are you?
[19:21] maahsatti: since you have been around so long
[19:21] maahsatti: I wondered
[19:22] Rapture203: told you before
[19:22] maahsatti: and have you heard from jaley at all or are you both totally finished?
[19:22] maahsatti: I forget...Im old remember?
[19:23] maahsatti: lol
[19:38] Rapture203: 35
[19:38] maahsatti: ahh, ok
[19:42] maahsatti: looks at you
[19:43] Rapture203: yes?
[19:43] maahsatti: nothing...just thinking
[19:44] maahsatti: actually, if I told you, I know you would only post it
[19:44] maahsatti: so...hmmm
[19:44] Rapture203: i could say.. i wouldnt post it
[19:44] maahsatti: you could, but doesnt mean you wouldnt...lest you gave your word as a mn
[19:44] maahsatti: man
[19:45] Rapture203: ok.. i wont post it.
[19:46] maahsatti: nods and thinks
[19:47] maahsatti: ok, first, before I say a word..would you tell me...what you think of me...fpr real...no kidding no jabs...but on a real level...no matter how bad it is, I can deal...I just want to know
[19:48] Rapture203: ok
[19:49] maahsatti: and I want the truth
[19:49] Rapture203: ok
[19:49] maahsatti: exactly what you think of me
[19:49] maahsatti: listens
[19:50] Rapture203: I think you are a smart mouthed wench, but lately i think you are have learned to be settle more into your place as a female... though your still a slave...and want to be one...
[19:51] maahsatti: what gives you the impression, that I want to be a slave, when I am as mouthy as I am and as opinionated?
[19:51] maahsatti: I admit I am mouthy and always have been
[19:51] Rapture203: it solicits a response
[19:51] Rapture203: not anyone though can put ya or keep ya on your knees though
[19:52] maahsatti: smirks
[19:52] maahsatti: aye
[19:53] Rapture203: I could, and I think you know that. Yet there are few and inbetween of me running around
[19:53] maahsatti: indeed
[19:53] maahsatti: very few
[19:53] Rapture203: bull is sure trying to be a "me"
[19:53] maahsatti: and only ONE of you
[19:53] maahsatti: LOL
[19:53] maahsatti: noway
[19:53] Rapture203: yup..only one
[19:54] maahsatti: I suppose it has been no damn secret to you, I respect and like you, and have since like.,...freakin forever....right?
[19:54] maahsatti: lol
[19:54] Rapture203: of course
[19:55] maahsatti: brv
[19:55] maahsatti: brb
[19:55] Rapture203: dont know what you saw in Kar, but ... he isnt even a close comparision ...
[19:56] maahsatti: your wrong Rapture, he is what he claims
[19:57] Rapture203: i didnt say he was misrepresentating
[19:57] Rapture203: I said he doesnt compare to me.
[19:57] maahsatti: ahh, yes, true....lol
[19:57] Rapture203: You forget.. I know Kar too
[19:57] maahsatti: you did say that
[19:58] maahsatti: oh?
[19:58] maahsatti: in rl?
[19:58] Rapture203: I have known Kar longer than you.. but i have not met him
[19:59] maahsatti: he was at Liz's gathering...and is as he claims
[19:59] maahsatti: even though I did not get the pleasure to meet him
[19:59] maahsatti: I hope he comes to my gathering in the spring
[19:59] Rapture203: well i dont trust the keyboard Another types on
[20:00] maahsatti: please dont disrespect his name....I loved him dearly, he broke it off not me, and itr was my nfault for getting too nosey
[20:00] Rapture203: he doesnt like his personal details known
[20:01] maahsatti: I found that ouft the hard way
[20:01] maahsatti: out
[20:01] Rapture203: well.. could of told ya..but...
[20:01] maahsatti: aye
[20:02] Rapture203: ... he may be as he claims but he has ghosts in his closet
[20:02] maahsatti: dont we all?
[20:02] Rapture203: no..
[20:03] maahsatti: really
[20:03] maahsatti: you have no skeletons?
[20:03] Rapture203: nope....
[20:03] maahsatti: I find that hard to believe Rapture and I look up to you for your honesty
[20:04] Rapture203: I dont... tends to get complicated if someone does
[20:05] Rapture203: i try to keep ghosts from my closet..they take up way to much space
[20:06] maahsatti: shrugs...anyways...I love Kar and always will, known him 6 yrs and was his as his woman over 2....so please dont down him......
[20:06] maahsatti: I regret we couldnt be rl
[20:06] Rapture203: i'm not trying to down him... i dont need to.
[20:06] maahsatti: nods
[20:07] maahsatti: brb
[20:09] maahsatti: slips back in
[20:09] maahsatti: so, trillian much better?
[20:09] Rapture203: yup
[20:09] maahsatti: I finally figured out what it was beside your name
[20:09] maahsatti: lol
[20:11] maahsatti: anyways...there is something I want to do, but knows I would get ridiculed for it till i die...not to mention I would need to rid myself of a slave I have rl
[20:12] maahsatti: am torn
[20:12] Rapture203: you have a slave?
[20:12] maahsatti: yes
[20:12] maahsatti: I do not go around announcing it
[20:12] Rapture203: ok...
[20:12] maahsatti: it is no ones business but my own
[20:12] Rapture203: what is it that you want to do?
[20:12] maahsatti: unless I choose tro tell
[20:12] maahsatti: to
[20:13] maahsatti: I think you know so dont be coy
[20:13] Rapture203: you mean submit to someone?
[20:13] maahsatti: but....what does it make you think?
[20:14] Rapture203: what does it make me think? makes me think you want to try it with me
[20:14] maahsatti: what does it make you think?
[20:14] Rapture203: you being a slave
[20:15] maahsatti: and?
[20:15] Rapture203: you proffering yourself to me... to be my slave
[20:15] maahsatti: I swore I never would be...ever ever...but...
[20:16] maahsatti: sighs and thinks
[20:16] Rapture203: i will be quite blunt.. I'm not interested in you.
[20:16] maahsatti: I will be just as blunt...I am in you..as if you didnt know
[20:16] maahsatti: you would reject me?
[20:17] Rapture203: yup
[20:17] maahsatti: if I begged it?>
[20:17] maahsatti: why?
[20:17] Rapture203: because i'm not interested
[20:17] maahsatti: why?
[20:18] maahsatti: never mind...know I respect you is all...and lets , let it be
[20:18] maahsatti: sorry
[20:18] Rapture203: no applogies necessary
[20:21] maahsatti: wow,k I feel stupid...I swore I never would,,,and I would for you and get spurned, like a trumpet....lol....what an ass I am
[20:22] maahsatti: oh well, we all need to take our chances
[20:22] Rapture203: no risk no possibility of reward
[20:24] maahsatti: chuckles..no risk,...yeah...try being a woman and bearing your true feelings to a man you respect and then tell me no risk....lol...funny...do you know how humiliating it is to hear from a man you repect...you are nothing?
[20:25] Rapture203: I could of been an asshole about it
[20:25] maahsatti: true, and I suppose you expect a thank you
[20:25] maahsatti: thank you for understanding
[20:26] maahsatti: my womanly bullshir
[20:26] maahsatti: t
[20:26] maahsatti: it wont ever show agaon
[20:26] maahsatti: \i
[20:28] Rapture203: never say never
[20:29] maahsatti: I have and will stick by it.......am sorry I have laid this on you however...and hope it stays between us
[20:29] Rapture203: It will.
[20:29] maahsatti: thank you
Session Close (maahsatti): Fri Nov 11 20:49:02 2005
Of course maahsatti has indicated I need not keep the above conversation private.
http://www.cm111-loco.webs.com/
P.S.
ReplyDeleteand it goes to show how you do not follow what is gor along with your nice little friends on Collarme.com . . .
Session Start (Rapture203:maahsatti): Sun Jan 04 12:44:31 2009
ReplyDelete[12:44] maahsatti: I did not *beg* your collar John...I said what I stated on the message board...so DO show me the proof of my begging....and IF you showa transcript of me begging, it is or has been doctored by you...because I infact did NOT beg a collar from you [Offline Message (Sun Jan 04 12:44:30 2009)]
[12:44] maahsatti: as far as being fat...ahh well...guess you cant use that any more either..as I am no longer...and btw...I may have been fat, but you are not the most attractive man...inside or out...I asked to be with you ONLY because of therespect I *had* for you...certainly notbecause of your looks...see the diff is, I can and did lose weight...you cant change your face...lol...andz apparently you can not change your bitter ugliness inside either, which iswhat*truly* makes you ugly [Offline Message (Sun Jan 04 12:40:22 2009)]
[12:44] maahsatti: BTW, Tom/Orion knows me, and I know he certainly would not take anything youhaveto say with any grain of salt [Offline Message (Sun Jan 04 12:42:54 2009)]
[12:45] Rapture203: lol. oddly enough the log is on a dvd. so no doctoring and of course you would lie
[12:45] Rapture203: So you roll the dice
Session Close (maahsatti): Sun Jan 04 12:46:40 2009
YES YOU DID BEG MY COLLAR BY WAY OF YOUR CONDUCT. THE QUOTES ARE ABOVE THAT PROVE SUCH.
Rapture
Keep in mind the quotations that by conduct even the inquiry begs the collar. Oddly enough the nice little girl cannot point to ANY SPECIFICS whatsoever with her allegations.
ReplyDeleteMy log:
Session Start (Rapture203:maahsatti): Sun Jan 04 12:47:37 2009
[12:47] maahsatti: it can still be doctored and you know it..I did not beg your collar, I asked in theway I explained it on the boards..so post away
[12:47] maahsatti: you have never intimidated me John and you never will
[12:47] Rapture203: not when file information is preserved
[12:48] Rapture203: i like computer forensics
[12:48] maahsatti: People all have your number.at least the ones with a brain
[12:48] maahsatti: how many times do youhave to be banned to get that?
[12:48] Rapture203: you mean people like marcus who contradict themsleves. like orion who cant make an agrument to save is life. you mean deceiftful people like silks and steel and bull..and now you?
[12:49] Rapture203: You mean because i contradict people... i prove them wrong. and those people who bann me are the very people who get contradicted
[12:49] maahsatti: and like I said to you...if thisis gonna be an insult party...save it..Im notplayin g and will just put you right back onignore
[12:49] Rapture203: actually i wasnever on iggy because you got my message
[12:49] maahsatti: I got your invite
[12:50] Rapture203: iggy prevents that
[12:50] maahsatti: then removed youfrom iggy...Mr know it all
[12:50] maahsatti: no, it does not
[12:50] Rapture203: lol you may want to talk to yahoo tech support
[12:50] maahsatti: Thats an issue with you...you have this God complex and think you know it all
[12:50] Rapture203: what research do you speak of by the way?
[12:50] maahsatti: I think you should
[12:51] maahsatti: cuz you were def on ignore and Istill got yourinvite request
[12:51] maahsatti: at first I could send, but could not see replies, till I removed you
[12:51] Rapture203: so you say. not bad from coming from you who has said many things thus far and cant prove one of them
[12:51] maahsatti: so..figure it out for yourself
[12:52] maahsatti: whatever John...go play your games with thelittle girlies who
[12:52] maahsatti: dont know any better
[12:52] Rapture203: more baseless conclusion... excellent.
[12:52] Rapture203: then you post your "research"
[12:53] maahsatti: bye now John, back onignore you go
[12:53] Rapture203: yada yada
[12:53] maahsatti: my research fool...meant...you had provoked me to research some of the topics we used to debate...NOT research on you
[12:53] maahsatti: you both are dumb
[12:53] maahsatti: laughs
[12:54] maahsatti: try correctly reading
[12:54] Rapture203: still .. what is your research? just blind, vague, and overly broad comments that have no support
[12:55] maahsatti: You have no basis to judge that in such a way...yet you will and do, cuz likeI said...you think you know it all
[12:55] Rapture203: I ask for your proof and you provide bullshit
[12:55] maahsatti: what proof
[12:55] Rapture203: yes i do have the right. you made the allegation
[12:55] maahsatti: proof of what?
[12:56] Rapture203: all that research of yours
[12:57] maahsatti: I do not recal everything from all those yrs ago....what I was saying was...when we had a debate about any given subject, you prompted me to look into it , within the books, etcetc...it was over various topics over time
[12:57] Rapture203: i'm sure you could retort.. heck i can. any specifics?
[12:57] maahsatti: yet you get your panties in a twist, cuz you thought I meant I researched you and thought I was trying to insult you,whenIwas not
[12:58] Rapture203: just emailed that conversation to you.
[12:58] maahsatti: so, dig those panties out of your ass John, you made an error on my intent and now can not even be man enough to admit thatmuch
[12:59] Rapture203: why dont you say this shit in front of me.
[12:59] maahsatti: come on out hereand I will
[12:59] maahsatti: I have said this shit to you onthe phone too
[12:59] Rapture203: send your info... rapture203@yahoo.com
[12:59] maahsatti: so, dont play thatcard with me
[12:59] Rapture203: actually our phone conversation was quite pleasant
[13:00] maahsatti: yes, they were BUT I never sugar coated things with you
[13:00] maahsatti: not online oron the phone
[13:00] maahsatti: why I can give you my info right here
[13:00] Rapture203: cant wait till you are bitch and make your claims as you did online.
[13:00] Rapture203: do so then.
[13:00] Rapture203: get my email yet?
[13:01] maahsatti: ----ADDRESS AND PERSONAL INFORMATION REDACTED---- did I miss anything?
[13:01] maahsatti: laughs
[13:01] maahsatti: my claims?
[13:01] maahsatti: what claims
[13:01] Rapture203: actually a airport would be nice.
[13:02] maahsatti: Logan Airport...Boston Ma
[13:02] Rapture203: oh boston.. i feel a holiday coming
[13:02] Rapture203: Get my email?
[13:02] maahsatti: and No, I will not meet you and pick you up...you can rent a car and come here....lol
[13:02] Rapture203: so many people to visit..
[13:02] maahsatti: I did and will read itsoon
[13:03] Rapture203: you assumed facts
[13:03] maahsatti: facts about what?
[13:03] Rapture203: dont you love it when the mighty silk and steel peoples are usruped by a mere female.. i find it quit enjoyable.
[13:03] maahsatti: that you would not collarthe little girly and that you onlyuse her?
[13:03] Rapture203: that i wanted you to pick me up
[13:03] maahsatti: oh
[13:04] maahsatti: I could care less about S&S
[13:04] maahsatti: never did care about them
[13:04] Rapture203: i find it amusing. and how the typical clusterfucked morons think they are know something when they didnt even bother to actually readon the books.
[13:04] maahsatti: I prefered JD
[13:04] Rapture203: JD?
[13:05] maahsatti: Jagged Dagger
[13:05] Rapture203: They were just as bad
[13:05] maahsatti: what does moronic people, neverreading the books, have to dowith me?
[13:05] Rapture203: did you know we have all the documented proof of what nyx told you in email? actual stuff from the Tulure county DA's family support division no less
[13:05] maahsatti: No, actually they werenot
[13:06] maahsatti: nyx never told me anything in email
[13:06] Rapture203: sable censored many people as did raven
[13:06] Rapture203: she sent you an email
[13:06] Rapture203: i have the cc
[13:07] maahsatti: and as far as Jo..he is a man and his personal business is his own...not a one of us is perfect or innocent or can say we havenever broken a law
[13:07] Rapture203: and the reason i got booted from jd was that I wouldnt tolerate their censorship and it was more than just idle internet bot stuff
[13:07] maahsatti: if she did, I never recieved it
[13:07] Rapture203: you defended him
[13:07] Rapture203: you opened the door
[13:07] Rapture203: deal with it
[13:07] maahsatti: damn right I did...and still do
[13:08] maahsatti: so, whats to dealwith
[13:08] Rapture203: defend a liar and a felon then.
[13:08] maahsatti: felon?...lol...as far as a liar, that remains to be seen by me
[13:08] Rapture203: but then again... that is par for the course on cm, with you, raven, and members of silk and steel
[13:09] Rapture203: as for nyx's email you may want to check your spam folder
[13:09] maahsatti: I have never been a member of S&S and I do not lie..infact I am brutally honest...why?...I haveno need to lie
[13:10] Rapture203: you have lied about me. and I will prove so within 24 hours if you do not publically applogize for your false comments or be prepared to defend them with Proof.
[13:10] maahsatti: my days of lieing and gaming ended many yrs ago whenI admitted to duelling
[13:10] Rapture203: yes i know about your past.. "jala"
[13:11] Rapture203: I suggest you prepare your proof as to your statements then.
[13:11] maahsatti: like I said...I did NOT *beg* your collar...so ost what you want...I will defend and stand by my words...if in fact they are my words and not doctored
[13:12] maahsatti: umm...everyone knows about Jala...even when I was using Jala, I told people relevent to me
[13:12] Rapture203: i dont doubt that.
[13:12] maahsatti: so, try again sweet heart
[13:12] Rapture203: I made a statement not an allegation.
[13:13] Rapture203: i know you publically admitted to the dealings of jala
[13:13] Rapture203: lol
[13:14] maahsatti: so, whats your point
[13:14] Rapture203: Like i said I will just post the verbatim log of the entire conversation which will disprove your statements.
[13:14] Rapture203: regarding your posts on cm
[13:14] maahsatti: go for it
[13:14] Rapture203: you have the conversation in your email...
[13:15] Rapture203: ya and you remember your place female. "[13:14] Nyxmyst1: Mistress Maa: I will be up front from the start...I approved this request, under the condition you show proper respect, if not...it will be terminated nyxmyst1: Polite I'm willing to be. Define "proper respect"."
[13:15] Rapture203: obvisously you need to be shown that again
[13:15] maahsatti: if you think I do not know already she isnt showing you...think again
[13:16] Rapture203: lol. dont give yourself credit..
[13:16] maahsatti: credit for what...having a brain?
[13:17] Rapture203: remember you have been up and down so many times it isnt funny
[13:17] maahsatti: up and down?
[13:17] Rapture203: yup.. you know slave fw slave fw slave fw
[13:17] maahsatti: lol...2 times fool
[13:18] Rapture203: thanks for the admission. want a quote as to that?
[13:18] maahsatti: you love to make things out to be more then they are
[13:18] maahsatti: a form of lieing
[13:18] Rapture203: more than once is good enough
[13:18] maahsatti: admission?...I already admiited it yearsand yearsago
[13:18] maahsatti: so, again...try again
[13:18] Rapture203: Yes you have.
[13:19] Rapture203: so you are just a female.. and lower than a slave: “If a girl of caste is enslaved, and then disowned, she, while slave cannot stand in companionship. Even if freed, without family, and by the same act, without caste, would have a status beneath the dignity of the meanest peasant wench, secure in the rights of her caste. She would be among the lowest women on Gor. Even a slave girl has at least a collar” .(Hunters, pg. 135)
[13:19] Rapture203: One of my favs: "Make my maidens slaves," she said, "they are good for little else. But I am a free woman!" "Do you think you are better than they?" asked Samos. "Yes," she said. "You are no different from them," he said. "You, too are only a female." Players of Gor pg. 13
[13:21] maahsatti: whatever...Im trying to read...
[13:21] Rapture203: yada yada yada
[13:21] Rapture203: uh huh.
[13:24] Rapture203: I like this one to re our conversation and your admissions in your post on cm: Any free woman who couches with another's slave or readies for such, becomes , by law, herself a slave and the property of said slaves owner.
pg. 7 Magicians of GOR
[13:24] Rapture203: or readies for such...
[13:25] Rapture203: there are of course other favs i have
[13:26] Rapture203: running your mouth again?
[13:27] maahsatti: number 1..I still did not beg your collar...it was put forth asz hypotheticals mixed with my feelings for youat the time...I stated I would *if you required it*...number 2...the slave I had was platonic..and I never saidz anything tothe contrary...I can not sleep with someone I do not respect and he was useless and worthless to me
[13:27] maahsatti: so...post itJohn
[13:27] Rapture203: i will.
[13:27] maahsatti: and I will point out all myclaims
[13:28] Rapture203: glad you have confirmed the authenticity
[13:28] maahsatti: and people..azs usual will see you for the decietful liar you are that holds no honor or promise he makes
[13:29] Rapture203: which promises were those?
[13:29] maahsatti: yep...and I still maintain the fact, I did not beg you
[13:29] Rapture203: still empty allegations where those.
[13:29] maahsatti: to not show the transcript...not because what I was doing was wrong, but because they were my personal feelings and were only meant to be szhared with you
[13:30] maahsatti: what allegations?
[13:30] Rapture203: [13:28] maahsatti: and people..azs usual will see you for the decietful liar you are that holds no honor or promise he makes
[13:30] maahsatti: well...it is true, if you post it
[13:30] maahsatti: but go ahead and post it
[13:30] Rapture203: I will.
[13:30] maahsatti: I do not hold those feelings anymore
[13:31] Rapture203: ok. so what.
[13:31] maahsatti: so...no big deal...but it shouldz be to you...you will only prove my point
[13:31] Rapture203: as i said ... annotated.
[13:32] Rapture203: and just like marcus here .. just blow smoke to prove a point verse references
[13:32] maahsatti: I do not know what annotated means
[13:32] Rapture203: (Link: www.w-m.com)www.w-m.com
[13:32] maahsatti: dont care that much to look either
[13:33] Rapture203: oops (Link: www.m-w.com)www.m-w.com
[13:33] maahsatti: as I said...I did not beg your collar..I expressed my feelings towards you
[13:33] Rapture203: suit your self
[13:33] maahsatti: so, make an ass of yourself..Im sure you are used to it by now....lol
[13:34] maahsatti: and I need to go
[13:34] Rapture203: havent you noticed anything... esepcailly about cm.. that there is this silent majority and a vocal minority that just gets shit wrong
[13:35] Rapture203: and people are run off when they dare to disagree with the "in crowd".. i could name them but you already know
[13:35] maahsatti: I could care less about CM...I do not like the censorship either or the BDSM crap...BUT I do respond to topics in the Gorean section, that intrest me to do so and to better communicate with those I respect and admire
[13:36] maahsatti: thats something I do notdo...is run off when faced with adversity
[13:36] maahsatti: I charge at it
[13:37] Rapture203: didnt you need to go? then i suggest you charge at it when i post. with your evidence
[13:38] maahsatti: I damn well intend to
[13:38] Rapture203: Good.
[13:39] maahsatti: then, you will be placed, right back on ignore after I point out how petty and dishonest you are
[13:39] maahsatti: and I will enjoy it
[13:40] Rapture203: you still havent learned .. because each time you tried you have failed.
[13:40] Rapture203: kewl.
[13:40] Rapture203: :)
[13:41] maahsatti: have I really?...lol...I guess thats why people do not take youseriously and they do me
[13:41] maahsatti: lol
[13:41] maahsatti: cuz I do not lie
[13:41] maahsatti: I do not sugar coat
[13:41] maahsatti: and I do not play games in order to always be right
[13:42] Rapture203: you still bathering? I'll post. You respond. and as I said you best have more than just your word to back you up.
[13:43] maahsatti: I do, I have the transcript...then I will have my explained intent as shown on the tran
[13:43] maahsatti: lol
[13:43] maahsatti: Jesus, grow up
[13:43] maahsatti: now, truly. I gotta go
[13:44] maahsatti: byeeee
[13:44] Rapture203: ....
Session Close (maahsatti): Sun Jan 04 13:44:17 2009
P.S.S.
ReplyDeleteBring it on.
Rapture
I do want to thank you for advertising my blog. I always love to get new readers and you're being so very helpful with your service in this.
ReplyDeleteI will add that everyone else who read my blog knew it wasn't a log. I'd think anyone with intellegence would have noticed that there was a lack of anything that would actually indicate a log.
You can call me a liar all you want.. but what you're really seeing is how I interpret what you said to me. And that, my dear, I'm certainly not lying about.
Enjoy your new found fame while it lasts.. I'm starting to think that's the point of this for you.
MORE ___CONFIRMATION___ of conduct that is begging a collar.
ReplyDeletenyxmyst1 (1/4/2009 1:52:02 PM): To be hurt, I'd have to care. I have too much going on in my own life to care. He'll survive.. or not.. on his own merits.
Mistress Maa (1/4/2009 1:52:38 PM): you do not see this yet, dont know if youever will...but your great mentor..is nothing to be proud of...believe me....but Im not gonna sit here and try to convince you, you are an adult women with a brain, and the ability to make your own choices in life...and I know you show him everything we write and have all along...but like I told him..I need to go right now...he can post what he wants about me and that transcript he has...lol..I maintain I told the truth, I did not beg his colar, I expressed my feelings to him and gave him azhypothetical, toldz him I would IF he required it...but I never did and when he said no to me...I respected it.....wanna notice something?...notice he gave his word he would never post it...yet he is going to...he is the one who will be made the ass...not me...lo
A TRUE FW WOULD NOT GIVE A HYPOTHEITCAL AND ESPECIALLY GIVE A GOREAN MAN AN OPTION TO COLLAR HER.
You lied.
As to what is Gor you BEGGED.
You were rejected by me.
Rapture
P.S.
ReplyDeleteWhere is your EVIDENCE as to your allegation just not conclusions? Where is the underlying EVIDENCE that supports your conclusion? YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY! (lies unto themselves).
Me?
I have your own words and conduct.
I have what is GOR.
Rapture
LETS TALK ABOUT DISHONESTY NOW.....and how this girl "maah" excuses dishonesty...
ReplyDelete"Mistress Maa (1/4/2009 1:40:21 PM): He loves his children...some people just do not have the financial means to payat a certain time...I know..asz my ex was in that situation for a time...and I feel everyone has cheated their taxes at least oncein their life."
Pay at a certain time?
More like raven (ravenofpk) has used a false social security number to EVADE child support payments and taxes. Then again you haven't seen the ACTUAL paper trail nor have you wanted to but make an excuse for raven.
Further not everyone has cheated their family nor on their taxes. LOL.
You speak of deciet and concealment your statements about not begging my collar in which you have by your conduct and the whole say excuses to shield raven without so much as evaluating the actual EVIDENCE is deciet and concealment. You make baseless and meritless conclusions just because of assoication.
Rapture
LETS TALK ABOUT DISHONESTY NOW.....and how this girl "maah" excuses dishonesty...
ReplyDelete"Mistress Maa (1/4/2009 1:40:21 PM): He loves his children...some people just do not have the financial means to payat a certain time...I know..asz my ex was in that situation for a time...and I feel everyone has cheated their taxes at least oncein their life."
Pay at a certain time?
More like raven (ravenofpk) has used a false social security number to EVADE child support payments and taxes. Then again you haven't seen the ACTUAL paper trail nor have you wanted to but make an excuse for raven.
Further not everyone has cheated their family nor on their taxes. LOL.
You speak of deciet and concealment your statements about not begging my collar in which you have by your conduct and the whole say excuses to shield raven without so much as evaluating the actual EVIDENCE is deciet and concealment. You make baseless and meritless conclusions just because of assoication.
Rapture
Oh..it appears I am blocked on CM..so I will post it here.
ReplyDeleteAlwaysLisa on 1/15/09 at 5:14 AM:
You are wrong. And yet you prove why the word gorean is meaningless if one lives an honest, productive life. Not everyone has cheated on taxes, some of us take things a little more seriously and were raised better. To read that a self declared "gorean" feels it justified to lie and cheat the government...only solidifies my belief that the label is about as accurate as a post it note slapped on one's forehead.
Maahsatti on 1/15/09 at 12:22 PM:
Grow up little girl and FYI..no Gorean needs validation,specially from some nieve lil girl Maahsatti
My last reply on the matter because it grows boring.
I see, and your gorean?
So, do all goreans promote lying and stealing, or only you? For your general knowledge, I am neither little, nor uneducated on the matter of goreans. By the way...it's spelled naive. It works better if you spell things correctly when you attempt an insult.
I have nothing against you personally, I simply called you on a sweeping comment you made. It may be that people in your world lie, cheat and steal on a regular basis, but until now I had no idea that was a gorean trait. I shall have to ask around.
Lisa
Well, I am not a little girl, mahsatti, jala, or whoever you are. You WERE wrong suggesting that everyone has lied on taxes at least once. And you are also wrong that every father seperated from his children are dead-beat dads. I find it amusing just who and what you defend. Whether you choose the label gorean or not to describe yourself. The description of who you are is mind-boggling.
ReplyDeleteAnd for the record. You DID beg his collar. But you were so insecure with the answer, you worded it in a way that could cause the controversy it did, had he rejected you. Which, by the way, he did.
LMAO now this is funny shit...who the fuck cares...dont be a hypocrite and call someone fat when you are fuckin around will a fat UGLY one lmao
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ReplyDeletehttp://libertas-rapture.blogspot.com/2009/05/sadism-sado-masochism-and-gor.html
well since you have approve my post witch you prolly will not, ....you are comming quit the hypocrite, witch you preach day in and day out about all your buddies....you do the same lol censorship ....ever hear of that?????? nah noy you Rapture....anywho....fat is fat, black is black...you cant call down a group of ppl for being fat and old and ugly then give excuses why another person is....the other ppl that are fat give excuses also but you dismissed them cuz they dont like you....hypocrite? maybe maybe not.....ya i have/had a problem so i dont look like certain ppl though i prolly look better cuz im not ugly no matter what you say lol......hmmm we started speaking, not alot, maybe hmmm 2 weeks ago now? or so....i called you, you called me down for a while, said you still loved me, eventhough i said to you we can be friends...you said you couldnt be my friend cuz you still loved me....or am i lying about that? please tell the truth mr tell the truth, i gave you no way that i wanted to get back with you, so how could you have rejected me????? your prove? mr prove it?....now i get to the..."all she is after is a meal ticket" ummmmm dont you think if that was anyway true id be with you right now???????? if i wanted that "meal" ticket i could have had it long ago...so still not true....i think that was another fat bitch you fucked, ....sorry remember i have a eating disorder and scared of getting fat, so that wasnt me ........do i admit...i fucked up many of times with you? fuck ya....do i admit im a jealous crazy bitch and act like a fool because of that? DUH....do i admit (something you can not do) that i still have feelings for you?well again DUH......im not going to be the hypocrite here and take personal stuff we discussed between ourselfs to call you down...i told you before i wouldnt do that....but is this your first time doing this to me????? because of your jealously, crazyness, and being angry....dont you remember the Tommy thing? him and i were reay good friends till you over and over killed that, you made sure of it, kinda like how you say, you are only "friends" with someone.....what i never ever got...you say you hate these ppl but their lives are so important and consumes you time..its kinda freaky...its like really ...who the fuck cares what ppl do in their lives.......lastnight when i did talk to you, you admit doing that stuff ( using shit i told you then caling me down and usin personal info) and said it was one moment in time and you didnt mean to do that....well i said you did it more then once, and after all that doing it again...hypocrite.......and please dont make ecuses for fat ppl when you call down others for the same thing
ReplyDeleteThank-you for proving my point that is over here...
ReplyDeletehttp://libertas-rapture.blogspot.com/2009/05/sadism-sado-masochism-and-gor.html
...I don't make excuses nor have I...for anyone and I could be never with someone like you tangy.. but then again again you just proved me right about you.
So move on.. oddly enough you told me you were not going to respond to me anymore...and that you were wrong...but now you right all of a sudden?
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i can post whatever i like in a open puplic forum...do you not preach this all the time? your such a hypocrit and you dont even know it....let the fat bitch have ya.....your not all that....i tried to say sorry to you this morning and i was wrong...if you want some fat ugly bitch its yu that has to look at her not me ...good luck....ya i went a little crazy for a bit but im over it....i wish you all the best....you hate me i hate you...lets leave it a that eh...like everyone else that comes in and out of your life.....seeya....you wont hear from me again
see yonder.... -->
ReplyDeleteawww poor little biotch runs and hides LMAO...are you a man or a mouse lol
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